Comments on: Serotonin and Beyond http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/ The Weblog of Doubt and Other Disorders - Living With OCD Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:02:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Gaëtan Paradis http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7549 Gaëtan Paradis Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:12:58 +0000 http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7549 Yeah I know about serotomine but when I say Genetic I mean real Gene It's on study now that the gene:"slc1a1" is clearly a transmitter of ocd check that link: http://archpsyc.amaassn.org/cgi/content/abstract/63/7/769 There is maybe for sure serotomin involved but a few more things will come from that study of that slc1a1 gene I'm quite sure. What I meant for CBT therapy is yes it can help but saying that the therapy alone will cure you if you follow it all your life is bull... And maybe it's best to put money on a "genetic" solution. By the way I like your:"Don't believe everything you think". Yeah I know about serotomine but when I say Genetic I mean real Gene It’s on study now that the gene:”slc1a1″ is clearly a transmitter of ocd check that link: http://archpsyc.amaassn.org/cgi/content/abstract/63/7/769
There is maybe for sure serotomin involved but a few more things will come from that study of that slc1a1 gene I’m quite sure. What I meant for CBT therapy is yes it can help but saying that the therapy alone will cure you if you follow it all your life is bull… And maybe it’s best to put money on a “genetic” solution.

By the way I like your:”Don’t believe everything you think”.

]]> By: Incertus http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7548 Incertus Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:24:30 +0000 http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7548 There is no doubt that the root of OCD is genetic. And if you find a shrink that says otherwise-my advice-run away. Fast. In my family it comes from my maternal grandmothers side. In fact virtually every cousin I have in that branch of the family has OCD. CBT therapy does work for most who can tolerate it (not many) as do the medications. But for an unfortunate minority (40% or so) neither works to any great degree. There is some evidence for genetics playing a role in in that type (treatment refractory) OCD as well. OCD is obviously way more complex then just having "low" levels of serotonin. But it is also obviously a physiological illness that happens to have psychological symptoms. And need to be treated as such. CBT works because it actually changes the way the brain functions(over time) in those that can do it and that it works for. There is no doubt that the root of OCD is genetic. And if you find a shrink that says otherwise-my advice-run away. Fast. In my family it comes from my maternal grandmothers side. In fact virtually every cousin I have in that branch of the family has OCD.

CBT therapy does work for most who can tolerate it (not many) as do the medications. But for an unfortunate minority (40% or so) neither works to any great degree. There is some evidence for genetics playing a role in in that type (treatment refractory) OCD as well.

OCD is obviously way more complex then just having “low” levels of serotonin. But it is also obviously a physiological illness that happens to have psychological symptoms. And need to be treated as such. CBT works because it actually changes the way the brain functions(over time) in those that can do it and that it works for.

]]> By: Gaëtan Paradis http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7547 Gaëtan Paradis Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:59:51 +0000 http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7547 Ok I know I'm not in a forum... but Hey I few more lines from me about Genetic transmission of OCD and I will behave normally on your Blog after... - What's the problem with these Psychologists don't they understand that the transmission is genetic and that's all. I have a son that i raise from 1 year to 10 years who was not my biological son and he has not any kind of OCD. And... I have a son, a biological son, that I never raise but I saw him only a few times and I don't know him but I'm sure he has OCD. My father had OCD to. Why do they have to torture us with there therapy which never do anything exept torturing us. Give us the dam pills and leave us alone... man! Sorry I had to Vent somewhere...! Ok I know I’m not in a forum… but Hey I few more lines from me about Genetic transmission of OCD and I will behave normally on your Blog after… - What’s the problem with these Psychologists don’t they understand that the transmission is genetic and that’s all. I have a son that i raise from 1 year to 10 years who was not my biological son and he has not any kind of OCD. And… I have a son, a biological son, that I never raise but I saw him only a few times and I don’t know him but I’m sure he has OCD. My father had OCD to. Why do they have to torture us with there therapy which never do anything exept torturing us. Give us the dam pills and leave us alone… man! Sorry I had to Vent somewhere…!

]]> By: Incertus http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7545 Incertus Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:30:51 +0000 http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7545 I guess I should update that profile... Every time I've spoken, like at an open meeting and talked about my OCD I always have several folks come up to me after and say. "Me too". So yeah, I know it's common in AA. along with other mental disorders. Self medication and all of that. I guess I should update that profile… Every time I’ve spoken, like at an open meeting and talked about my OCD I always have several folks come up to me after and say. “Me too”. So yeah, I know it’s common in AA. along with other mental disorders. Self medication and all of that.

]]> By: Gaëtan Paradis http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7544 Gaëtan Paradis Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:18:46 +0000 http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7544 Yeah I knew about your AA times ! I saw it in your profile, but you say 17 years in your profile ? ( joke ! ) And that's why I post a comment. I'm quite sur especially for OCD men that alcohol is very often a problem. And in my AA temoignage I've always said that my problem was genetic. Yeah I knew about your AA times ! I saw it in your profile, but you say 17 years in your profile ? ( joke ! ) And that’s why I post a comment. I’m quite sur especially for OCD men that alcohol is very often a problem. And in my AA temoignage I’ve always said that my problem was genetic.

]]> By: Incertus http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7543 Incertus Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:40:24 +0000 http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7543 Hey, maybe it's the AA thing. I'm 19 years... Hey, maybe it’s the AA thing. I’m 19 years…

]]> By: Gaëtan Paradis http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7542 Gaëtan Paradis Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:59:41 +0000 http://www.incertus.imntb.com/2007/02/07/serotonin-and-beyond/#comment-7542 Hi i'm new here, OCD, 55 and 22 in AA. - French from Québec. Me too I"m a decision maker. Always tell my friends that I never regret my past because I always made decisions after a good refexion and a clear choice of what to do... Hi i’m new here, OCD, 55 and 22 in AA. - French from Québec.
Me too I”m a decision maker. Always tell my friends that I never regret my past because I always made decisions after a good refexion and a clear choice of what to do…

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